tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post8901874366575317103..comments2023-12-23T03:43:38.964-05:00Comments on LEAVING THE ART OF LIVING: The 3 letter unspoken word: S E XAoL-Freehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266984166472037468noreply@blogger.comBlogger103125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-3541734062185916342010-08-15T01:40:24.544-04:002010-08-15T01:40:24.544-04:00This blog makes perfect sense. stay away run away ...This blog makes perfect sense. stay away run away from AOL as much as you can. i just threw his photo today. was heading badly and totally towards becoming full time teacher. cant thank you enough for starting this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-88076070422780012812010-06-14T16:30:26.941-04:002010-06-14T16:30:26.941-04:00To anonymous who posted this as part of SSRS respo...To anonymous who posted this as part of SSRS response to this blog:<br /><br />"If their idea is to stop people from coming to me, and if people do stop coming just by reading these blogs, then I really thank them; it is good for me, "...<br /><br />Hahahahahaha.....<br /><br />It was suggested once to SSRS that he give up wearing white, pretending to be celibate, pull his hair back, wear blue jeans, and admit to the world (or even no one, just stop pretending) that he was gay or bi. His response was:<br /><br />"But then all the Indian people would run away! I am doing what Maharishi couldn't do -- getting the Indian public...."<br /><br />It was further argued to him that: "Then the only people remaining would be here just for your message, not your personality or preferences, and you would be free of this pretending!"<br /><br />He persisted in his belief that the Indian public would condemn him, and it was his mission to 'get' them. Nothing should get in the way of it.Ravinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-36056566877926679772010-05-02T01:28:56.251-04:002010-05-02T01:28:56.251-04:00"Ravi Ravi was nicknamed as 'Chakka' ..."Ravi Ravi was nicknamed as 'Chakka' (eunnuch) by his classmates in Saint Joseph college, Bangalore where he did his undergrad studies. Ask the student batch of 1969. He never did his graduation all those stories of advanced degree in physics at 17 years is complte bogus."<br /><br />Well, let's see. In 1969 I was 15 and since SSRS is 3 years younger than me, this would make him 12 years old and in college; in fact graduating from college! There's a bit of a credibility problem here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-81912265074964896502010-02-21T14:06:41.459-05:002010-02-21T14:06:41.459-05:00http://www.facebook.com/pages/manage/#!/pages/Art-...http://www.facebook.com/pages/manage/#!/pages/Art-of-Liiving-AOL-is-a-scam-like-Amway/359964230409<br /><br />Join the group AOL is a Scam on FacebookAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06047966759848871621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-10647158113896229602010-02-05T22:20:00.062-05:002010-02-05T22:20:00.062-05:00There is nothing wrong in consensual sex, despite ...There is nothing wrong in consensual sex, despite being it a shocking thing for devotees. However, the power dynamic between guru and a young chela is such that sex will never be consensual - even if someone likes to believe otherwise. People who think it is up to the victim to bring this up do not realize it is not a question of sex - but about abuse of power.<br /><br />Somehow in RS's reality distortion field, intelligent people seem to justify these things, or deny they exist. What a tragedy!Peaceful Warriornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-51084206210293537622010-02-05T07:46:35.137-05:002010-02-05T07:46:35.137-05:00Ravi Ravi Ravi: “These people who keep writing abo...Ravi Ravi Ravi: “These people who keep writing about me simply cannot leave me alone - they must be in deep love with me!”<br /><br />Quite overwhelming, yes – the Narcissism. And to think that once upon a time I might have found it cute and endearing.<br /><br />Ravi, healing from abuse takes a long time – whether the abuser was you or anyone else. So don’t make such a big deal of it. Writing about abuse and alerting others are part of the healing process. It is also about taking responsibility for rectifying what went wrong – an ability notoriously absent in you. And spare us the “I’m such a martyr for humanity” trip. If anything, you should be called to account for committing crimes against humanity.Art of Leavinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00771406007192517830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-14871687304232067202010-02-04T18:19:07.557-05:002010-02-04T18:19:07.557-05:00Again, I am not that person. Please find someone e...Again, I am not that person. Please find someone else to accuse until you hit the right name. BTW, tell me exactly what I should be scared of? Ravi and company? Or people like you who go wrongly accusing people and/or know things but remain hidden in a corner? <br /><br />"Dear Klim ( xxx , whatever )<br /><br />Some of what you say in the previous blogs is true. However, now you are talking about pure rumor.<br /><br />Playing in a game way out of your league. Be scared, Be very scared !!!!"AoL-Freehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266984166472037468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-75194616501553816812010-02-04T03:53:42.154-05:002010-02-04T03:53:42.154-05:00I have learnt some good practices from the aol. I ...I have learnt some good practices from the aol. I am grateful for Guruji for that. I saw him even before the V Mantap was built- he was so simple and sincere- and I am sure he is still made that way. It must be a Karmic cycle taking on. I pray that things get alright with the organization. <br /><br />As for me, I am out of aol- happily pursuing spirituality through knowledge sessions, chanting, meditation and seva activities. Again, I am grateful to the same God who brought me to aol (when I needed it) to have brought me out of aol as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-45782969114638655492010-02-04T01:22:14.634-05:002010-02-04T01:22:14.634-05:00Ravi Ravi's response to Jody's Guruphiliac...Ravi Ravi's response to Jody's Guruphiliac blog is exteremely interesting. It shows that Ravi Ravi has all the characterstics of Megalomania, Narcissim and feigned granduer. <br />He claims he is incorrigible. my foot. Just tell this to people who have been so badly exploited by this man.Wanderslustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-69579824151083633782010-02-03T14:55:12.995-05:002010-02-03T14:55:12.995-05:00Guru-worship is flawed. True self-discovery comes ...Guru-worship is flawed. True self-discovery comes from self.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-10313630363679897282010-02-03T14:39:11.598-05:002010-02-03T14:39:11.598-05:00Anonymous: "I have inherited an ancient linea...Anonymous: "I have inherited an ancient lineage and my job is to further its cause"<br /><br />The only lineage RS has inherited is that of Megalomaniac Mahesh. There is no ancient lineage... It is just a lie to lend authenticity. To americans it is just a stress-management technique- nothing to do with religion, and to Indians it is ancient vedic lineage. To others it is a charitable organization...he will tell you want you want to hear. <br /><br />Can't you see the lies and manipulation. Use your brains, and stop living in denial.The Dudenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-23297490712220554202010-02-03T13:49:13.752-05:002010-02-03T13:49:13.752-05:00To anonymous who quoted RS's response -
Talk ...To anonymous who quoted RS's response -<br /><br />Talk is cheap...Judge him by his actions - not words. He tells everyone that he is out to do service and help the world. But look at his actions carefully, and you will realize it is lust for power and fame masquerading as charity.Peaceful Warriornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-75956399491920237272010-02-03T08:32:48.473-05:002010-02-03T08:32:48.473-05:00When I watched that video some time ago it totally...When I watched that video some time ago it totally hit home. It could not be more accurate! It is as if an expert went into the AoL, undercover, to take notes of its working mechanisms. Too perfect. If you are an AoLer, you may find watching this "low prana". <br /><br />Thanks for the info. <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6EAoL-Freehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266984166472037468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-85978233072797377602010-02-03T08:29:13.777-05:002010-02-03T08:29:13.777-05:00Oh yes. I remember reading that "response&quo...Oh yes. I remember reading that "response" by RS in Guruphiliac. It is funny how once you get out of Ravilandia, reading those smart ass replies of his, simply makes you laugh and feel like puking upon such high level of arrogance, manipulations and lies. A bunch of us fested from that letter. Everything, according to Ravi, revolves around him. I've never seen it, but he must have hell of a ginormous belly button! (or navel, like he calls it). For AoLers such a letter is a "YES THERE IS MY UNBEATABLE GURU!" For non-AoLers that is sign of big ego, manipulation, psychopathology. The way he manipulates his people and feeds on anything but spirituality is so evident in replies like those. Keep cheering, and let us keep frowning. I am glad I woke up and finally dared to see the truth. I am glad I am no longer in your shoes. I remember how that was like ... Happy seva darling.AoL-Freehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266984166472037468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-64082893520196715552010-02-03T03:20:15.651-05:002010-02-03T03:20:15.651-05:00...sorry the video in named 'mind control cult......sorry the video in named 'mind control cults' & not cult mind control.<br />happy viewing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-5193247353678867752010-02-03T03:17:59.578-05:002010-02-03T03:17:59.578-05:00Klim just see video- cult mind control( you tube) ...Klim just see video- cult mind control( you tube) and post your comment how much of it is true for AOL I have never been to aol but having studied the spiritual movement psychology all over the world, i am of the opinion all operate in more or less similar way.this is one of the best eye opener video i have ever seen in my life conveying mammoth message in 12 minutes.<br />all concern please have a look.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-50199952138860740942010-02-02T23:40:08.935-05:002010-02-02T23:40:08.935-05:00You seem to have lost it, Klim. While I admire you...You seem to have lost it, Klim. While I admire your writing skills and also admire more than 20,000 hits, the content is absolutely a vent for your frustration with no truth and facts. There is place for everything in this world. There have been demons during the time of Rama, Krishna, Jesus and Buddha and there are bad elements now - so its not surprising!It’s easy to write nasty blogs and sit around your computer waiting for comments and savoring them - That is what a Gay does.<br /><br />It’s tough to get out there and actually make a difference to the society. In an effort to expose the AOL, I pity you have exposed yourself - your character which has hit a new low. I know this is your blog and you are free to refute whatever that is against you.But its a challenge from me that your blog will not make an iota of difference to AOL and its service to the humanity. This is what Sri Sri has to say in response to such blogs.<br /><br />"I have inherited an ancient lineage and my job is to further its cause. Neither by thought, nor through word, nor by deed, have I ever done any harm to anyone, nor will I ever do so in the future; it is simply not in my nature. Nobody can expose me because there is nothing to expose: I stand tall, clean and naked in front of the whole world.<br />I do whatever maximum good I can, and I inspire others to do so. These people who keep writing about me simply cannot leave me alone - they must be in deep love with me! (laughter) When they keep comparing me with other people all the time, I must have made a very deep impression on them. I cannot help it if they can’t get over me - that’s the way I am! If I am that bad and fake, they should simply be able to ignore me and move onto the truth –why are they are holding onto me, again and again?<br /><br />If they are trying to teach me a lesson, if their intention is to correct me, then I’m sorry, I am incorrigible! (laughter)<br /><br />If their idea is to stop people from coming to me, and if people do stop coming just by reading these blogs, then I really thank them; it is good for me, it reduces my responsibility! If they think I am doing this for publicity, they are unaware of the disadvantages of popularity. I pity them. Celebrities enjoy only popularity, but spiritual leaders have a huge responsibility with that popularity. People do not go to celebrities for guidance and blessings, but with spiritual leaders they do.<br /><br />If they think I have no right to exist on this planet, then they can crucify me; I am afraid neither of death nor of being defamed. I am not afraid, because nothing can destroy me.<br /><br />We do charity with the hard earned money from our courses. We are, of course, rich with people and with good character, and I am ready to share this wealth with anyone.<br />Lest they understand that their hatred is nothing but love standing upside down"<br /><br />Without wasting anytime on your blogs, I am off to continue my service..Peace:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-35674609864881681562010-02-02T14:02:42.579-05:002010-02-02T14:02:42.579-05:00I know a friend who was abused by a senior senior ...I know a friend who was abused by a senior senior teacher. "she was taking care of him, while he was givin a part 2 course in the city" and he kind of hypnotized her for sexual purposes and at the same time she was his maid... When I found out about it, it was time to leave this shit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-43894567456125130352010-02-02T13:01:06.364-05:002010-02-02T13:01:06.364-05:00People with low self esteem, deception, lies, mass...People with low self esteem, deception, lies, mass hysteria, loneliness even when surrounded, personality deterioration, loss of reasoning and may be 3 letter unspoken word...<br /><br />welcome to AOL<br /><br />if you are an abnormal/aberrant person,this should be your destination.<br />if you are a normal person you never require anything like AOL throughout your life.<br />May god give everybody enough wisdom to decide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-34385177855516952652010-02-02T12:45:57.955-05:002010-02-02T12:45:57.955-05:00i dont think people become more efficient in their...i dont think people become more efficient in their original profession/job. most of the time i have observed the opposite. but the devotees neither understand nor are willing to understand. these gurus are culprits of society as they snatch active working efficient persons and use them for cult propagation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-4064017724269349842010-02-02T12:38:39.668-05:002010-02-02T12:38:39.668-05:00How many times these gurus tell/educate you to do ...How many times these gurus tell/educate you to do and excel in your own work/job? they rather encourage to withdraw from work by provoking to devote more & more time.silently they encourage (or don't discourage) parting family ties. gradually they make you more & more selfish while claiming it otherwise. ...And all the time poor devotee is made to think he in enlightened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-42511037775855748822010-02-02T10:47:46.083-05:002010-02-02T10:47:46.083-05:00truth pevails,
I knew about this already when I w...truth pevails, <br />I knew about this already when I was serving "god", but just as all AoLers I was quite dissonant and I went with believing it was all a bunch of bull and obviously, the problem never was with the guru nor the organization, but with the ones showing some imperfections about them. It took me all these years to have the balls to make it public. We'd discuss it amongst a few teachers, but with a lot of shame and quietly. Even talking about it was difficult. I know too many stories and I know other teachers with exactly the same stories from other men. I know people who have left the organization due to this, and yet, it has been kept all these years hidden in the closet. I repeat again, the word "boys" is the way he uses them, we are talking about young men, not children. I pray at least he is not that twisted. There are many unbelievable things about RS, and many things only people closest to him know. Like I wrote before, there are many sub groups and sub circles in the AoL, and not all the groups got to know many things about him and what went on in the background.AoL-Freehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266984166472037468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-42165350796580840452010-02-02T10:08:53.014-05:002010-02-02T10:08:53.014-05:00re anon February 1, 2010 9:01 PM,
One of the most...re anon February 1, 2010 9:01 PM,<br /><br />One of the most insidious things that people like Ravi Shankar and his guru Maharishi, and many others, have done is claim credit for what naturally occurs within the mind/psyche/soul of people who learn their techniques. Very good things do happen for some, and for some the good effects last a long time. For others the good eventually turns to horror. But to claim for themselves the crdit for what happens for a few because they teach a commonly known breathing or meditation technique, is arrogance incarnate. These techniques were not created or discovered by these guys. The hard work to promote them is done by unpaid devotees. Extravagant money goes to the guru and his family. But the ultimate crime is taking credit for what happens within the mind and body. If there is a God, God should get the credit for creating the human nervous system, that it works this way. If there is no God, Nature should get the credit, not She She and his ilk. These guys are nothing but pimps.bettynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-57036647823454750562010-02-02T09:04:15.444-05:002010-02-02T09:04:15.444-05:00“Even if I said, it happened to me, gosh, you'...“Even if I said, it happened to me, gosh, you'd be demanding for the same.”<br /><br />Perfectly true. Actually, no amount of evidence will do it for the true believers – not even getting “called into the closed chambers for getting some help with their Kundalini”, as chriswilliams nicely put it. At that point they will just rise to the next level of justification, rationalisation and denial. I know I myself was in love enough to be able to justify such things had they happened to me or had I heard about them at that time.<br /><br />One only stops justifying and rationalising stuff once you get to a point where all the torture and emotional cruelty RS puts you through become utterly unbearable. Before reaching that point, you’re able to justify a lot of his abuse of others and yourself - in the hope that the Guru always knows best, represents the Universal Mind, and what not. <br /><br />Unfortunately, merely seeing him put others through hell, is usually not enough to get one to the point of questioning/rejecting him as Guru. It’s most often one’s own pain that speaks the loudest, that eventually gets you to thoroughly question the Guru. When others are the target of his abuse, you may find it upsetting, but it is easier to rationalise. When you yourself become the target, especially over a prolonged period, then it’s a different story. Fortunately, I quite quickly reached the “unbearable point”, otherwise I might have been an AoL teacher today.Art of Leavinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00771406007192517830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3564480661548850441.post-55960305013361902162010-02-02T02:34:39.381-05:002010-02-02T02:34:39.381-05:00Hi Klim
I share the same sentiments as Anonymous ...Hi Klim<br /><br />I share the same sentiments as Anonymous 11.51. Guruji was a very simple and down to earth person when he first started AOL. The pride started creeping in after the opening of the Visalakshi Mandap - more foreigners which translated to more USD. Greed for fame and power got over him, another big event was planned i.e. the Silver Jubilee celebrations - that was when people started asking questions and looking at AOL differently. Croes of rupees which would have helped many of the underprivileged were squandered on lighted billboards, full page adverts in the mainstream media - is this what a welfare organisation does?<br /><br />There are a lot of questions and doubts in peoples minds but whatever said and done, Guruji has pulled me up from my wasted existence and made me see life in perspective - I learnt to live life simply without expectations. I left the organisation when the first signs of materialism and power became evident and went on to become a yoga teacher with the Bihar school of yoga.<br /><br />Whatever Guruji has done or will do in the future, its really his karma to hoodwink the millions who look upon him as a divine soul. I will always be eternally grateful to him - and thats where my association with AOL ends.<br /><br />KLIM, I hope that in time to come you will divulge some of the dark secrets in AOL - it will be good for people to know the truth about this organisation.<br /><br />May God give you the strength to heal and to get back to the real life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com